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BobBoys Dad
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posted: 2015-09-01 18:18:59 (ID: 1902) Report Abuse
Reason: Stop "current" managers creating another team and using MOTY straight away against "your" team to try and gain an advantage in league position/overall league standings....by either winning against "your" team or even keeping the Points difference down....?

Explanation: Just had a game and it was clear and obvious that the manager has logged on once, set the match against me as MOTY and hasn't logged on since!

Proof: Physical condition was 76% now 68%. This is clearly dodgy and needs looking into dude Still won but it's not the point

Anyone that disagrees will suspiciously lose their next match against a noob who "only logged in once"

Found my first post about a team creating another team and using MOTY against my team to effect the winning points difference, I still beat this new team 30-10 (I was MOTY'd) & then 37-13 without MOTY, but the team that's now been blocked won the same team 135-0 and with us both ending the season with 15-1 records, his points difference was 171 higher and he beat me in the Conference final with homefield advantage.



Obviously he had to go further and further to stop me and the rest of the real teams in the seasons to come but, the admin on 18 (actually 25 in total) teams would have sent me insane

Can't wait for the new season now there are no cheaters left playing the game

Last edited on 2016-06-26 11:10:09 by BobBoys Dad

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posted: 2015-09-01 19:27:25 (ID: 1903) Report Abuse
BobBoys Dad wrote:
Reason: Stop "current" managers creating another team and using MOTY straight away against "your" team to try and gain an advantage in league position/overall league standings....by either winning against "your" team or even keeping the Points difference down....?


Totally agree. There is no point in RZC (nor in RL) to play MOTY where even if they win it will not be beneficial to their team (e.g it will not help them get to the playoffs, win the division etc.).

Certainly, I cannot see how a new team would ever be in a position where winning their first game puts them into contention for something. So it makes sense that MOTY cannot be activated for the first x number of games.

I would suggest that the number is set at 6 and that should apply to all teams at the start of the season and at any point thereafter that a new team is created.

It doesn't make any sense to use MOTY before 6 weeks IMO as you have no idea how well you'll be doing later on down the line. Six weeks also gives new season newbies some protection against MOTY being played on them immediately although why anyone would want to bother is beyond me.

Newbies joining after the 6th week of the season will not have this protection but in all honesty a) who would want to play MOTY against a newbie team? b) as they would not be in contention it would hardly be a disadvantage to them if someone did MOTY against them. In fact it may even help them get a better draft pick!
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posted: 2015-09-01 20:51:15 (ID: 1904) Report Abuse
If we know how long it takes to go bot after only logging in once then we can work out how many games it MUST be before the MOTY can be activated. If it's 2 real life weeks then it definitely needs to be more than 4 matches if there's 3 a week, 6 would be the minimum
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posted: 2015-09-02 06:40:57 (ID: 1905) Report Abuse
Hm...

I have no real idea how to overcome this situation, but I understand the need for a solution. This "from week 6" will cause such managers to create the team earlier in the season, and just wait until this one game happens.

In RZA we have the manager ranks and could say "only top managers"...but here there is no such thing
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posted: 2015-09-02 09:17:57 (ID: 1907) Report Abuse
Cheers for considering this Pete, whatever you can do to detract people from THINKING this is a good idea might just be enough to stop if from happening
Can you add it to the lists of things to do/look into, something relating to a start date (+6-8 RZA weeks) ?
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posted: 2015-09-02 11:46:45 (ID: 1908) Report Abuse
Hm, I am not ok with doing it based on the date of first login. As told, it is too easy to overcome.
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posted: 2015-09-02 12:44:57 (ID: 1909) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Hm...

I have no real idea how to overcome this situation, but I understand the need for a solution. This "from week 6" will cause such managers to create the team earlier in the season, and just wait until this one game happens.

In RZA we have the manager ranks and could say "only top managers"...but here there is no such thing


Would it be feasible to give a manager rank (in RZC) based on the length of time they have participated? This might be equal to the number of complete seasons.

You could work out whichever system is easiest to use - either just use full seasons - or - from wk x of season A to wk x of season B = 1 full season. ( E.G. at present I would either be rank 0 as I have not completed any full seasons or rank 1 as I started halfway through last season).

You could then decide at which rank MOTY becomes available.
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posted: 2015-09-02 12:59:18 (ID: 1910) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Hm, I am not ok with doing it based on the date of first login. As told, it is too easy to overcome.

Maybe the only route is to block it from being used until the team has had 1 season rollover = They won't know the upcoming matches yet so this would resolve the problem and as Timelord said, with any genuine starting manager, with the team they start with it would be pointless using MOTY in the first season anyway?
Don't know how hard/easy this is to code up though?

Any other ideas Chaps?

PS. Pete, there could be an easy solution to this issue straight away as the team in question owns a supporters account, if it's possible to see who it is it might be obvious if that team has another established team (cough...in my league?!)
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posted: 2015-09-03 14:46:45 (ID: 1911) Report Abuse
Aehm...the easiest solution for me would be to kill MOTY in RZC...then...

I am not OK with revealing identities.
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posted: 2015-09-03 14:56:28 (ID: 1913) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Aehm...the easiest solution for me would be to kill MOTY in RZC...then...

I am not OK with revealing identities.

I completely respect that
Hey, if it is a current team being naughty, have a quite word and we'll forget about it
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